Visits to Oktoberfest - A World Class Event
Welcome to the first Blog dedicated to visiting Munich and the annual Oktoberfest ritual. Many of us have been visiting this “celebration of all celebrations”, as a group since 1993. We hope to share our experiences, provide tips for visiting, and give you our views on the typical “what to do” and “what not to do”. But primarily we want to have some good discussions with those of you who love beer, and may or may not have ever visited this fine event. Give us your thoughts.
Be sure to visit these great resources...
Beer Drinker's Guide to Munich BeerAdvocate.com Official Oktoberfest Site Trip History
BarleyMan's Lazy Shortcut for Posting Official 2007 Trip Planning Site
Contributors
Thursday, July 26, 2007
Mainz, and Gutenberg

German history, as the rest of Western history, gets very dynamic from about the 12th century onward.
Why is that? Did people just become less heads-down toilers in the field, less rapacious barbarian warriors, just transform themselves into civil societies progressing inevitably towards our modern civilization? Weren't they before?
Plague, war, floods, threats from without and within. All of these occurred though the periods 11th century through 16th. But they had before as well. Over thirty percent of the population of Europe was wiped out, multiple times - from plague alone. Great fields were taken, not as farm land, but to dispose of the dead.
Why is this period then considered historically grounding? From whence did the great masters - in literature, art, music, science, philosophy, invention, medicine - come?
Part of the answer, as with other things, lies in our own perceptions. We perceive this period dynamic simply because we know more about this period. Written histories have proven more durable than oral and balladic histories. (When was the last time you had to memorize a 50 stanza ballad dealing with Norse conquest?) Written histories are how we know what we know of ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome, but many other cultures didn’t adopt such arcane methods as the written word.
Therein lies part of the answer. In Mainz, just southwest of Frankfurt Germany, the son of a goldsmith invented a way to reproduce the printed word quickly and inexpensively. Printing presses had been around for a bit (mostly for carved wooden block art – “prints”,) as had type. Johann Gutenberg invented, built, and used a means of making type and setting it in blocks for printing (in presses) that allowed the type to be set, used, and then reset for new content. For the first time, mass production of multiple printed works could be realistically undertaken. Of course, first was the Gutenberg Bible. Books could be reproduced and owned by far more than the few.
I’ll leave it you, gentle reader: is the explosion of ideas that followed because of the press, or was the appearance of the press merely the release of a dam previously impeding the free flow of ideas?
Certainly we know a great deal about the years following, and the century or two before – simply because there were presses to print what people still remembered, and the events as they occurred.
Simultaneously, the Medici in Florence were patrons to the arts in ways that were freer from the Church and later became known as the enlightenment. Whether causative, and enabled by the later invention of the press – or not, clearly a revolt from a single orthodoxy or narrative, to a multiplicity of ideologies livened politics, art, science and religion. The Renaissance was well underway.
Why is that? Did people just become less heads-down toilers in the field, less rapacious barbarian warriors, just transform themselves into civil societies progressing inevitably towards our modern civilization? Weren't they before?
Plague, war, floods, threats from without and within. All of these occurred though the periods 11th century through 16th. But they had before as well. Over thirty percent of the population of Europe was wiped out, multiple times - from plague alone. Great fields were taken, not as farm land, but to dispose of the dead.
Why is this period then considered historically grounding? From whence did the great masters - in literature, art, music, science, philosophy, invention, medicine - come?
Part of the answer, as with other things, lies in our own perceptions. We perceive this period dynamic simply because we know more about this period. Written histories have proven more durable than oral and balladic histories. (When was the last time you had to memorize a 50 stanza ballad dealing with Norse conquest?) Written histories are how we know what we know of ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome, but many other cultures didn’t adopt such arcane methods as the written word.
Therein lies part of the answer. In Mainz, just southwest of Frankfurt Germany, the son of a goldsmith invented a way to reproduce the printed word quickly and inexpensively. Printing presses had been around for a bit (mostly for carved wooden block art – “prints”,) as had type. Johann Gutenberg invented, built, and used a means of making type and setting it in blocks for printing (in presses) that allowed the type to be set, used, and then reset for new content. For the first time, mass production of multiple printed works could be realistically undertaken. Of course, first was the Gutenberg Bible. Books could be reproduced and owned by far more than the few.
I’ll leave it you, gentle reader: is the explosion of ideas that followed because of the press, or was the appearance of the press merely the release of a dam previously impeding the free flow of ideas?
Certainly we know a great deal about the years following, and the century or two before – simply because there were presses to print what people still remembered, and the events as they occurred.
Simultaneously, the Medici in Florence were patrons to the arts in ways that were freer from the Church and later became known as the enlightenment. Whether causative, and enabled by the later invention of the press – or not, clearly a revolt from a single orthodoxy or narrative, to a multiplicity of ideologies livened politics, art, science and religion. The Renaissance was well underway.
Labels: German History
Wednesday, July 25, 2007
Another post about Day Trips...
Saturday..... Train to Tegernsee around 9 - 10ish, return 3ish. Tents in the evening. We don't need no stinking parade ! ! !
Sunday........ Kloster Andechs. Tents in the evening.
Monday....... Tram 17 Beer Tour. You get it, tents in the evening, or maybe a wrap up at Augustiner Keller or Wally World.
Sunday........ Kloster Andechs. Tents in the evening.
Monday....... Tram 17 Beer Tour. You get it, tents in the evening, or maybe a wrap up at Augustiner Keller or Wally World.
Tuesday, July 24, 2007
Lack of Postings!
I have scientifically calculated the number of new postings (not comments), created by the core Oktoberfestians. Whilst it is interesting (and important) that comments are generated, and we thank all that have commented, it is new postings that generate excitement. In order of ranking, most to fewest, just for the month of July, the numbers reveal a disturbing trend...
Barbus 6 new postings
Chugger 5 new postings
Einfahrt 4 new postings
BarleyMan 1 new posting
Should this be tolerated?
Barbus 6 new postings
Chugger 5 new postings
Einfahrt 4 new postings
BarleyMan 1 new posting
- Congratulations to Barbus..... a great effort that is appreciated
- Good job Chugger. Especially since you were on vacation for 10 days and without the luxury of Internet communication
- Einfahrt... we're impressed
Should this be tolerated?
Monday, July 23, 2007
Another Milestone Has Been Reached
With only 60 days until until the festival begins (and only 56 days until departure), another checklist item has been accomplished. Train travel from Amsterdam to Munchen on 21 September has been arranged and paid for. The 4 troubadours of debauchery will travel with the following arrangements:
Leave Amsterdam at 06:34 on 21 September
Arrive Munchen at 14:04 on 21 September
High speed Intercity, with no change of train.
Leave Amsterdam at 06:34 on 21 September
Arrive Munchen at 14:04 on 21 September
High speed Intercity, with no change of train.




